Comments on: ArkProject Debate Squad: Baker vs. White

By: Br549

Br549 — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:53:58 +0000

Again, I didnt want to debate the merits, or lack thereof, of the abortion issue as a whole. We will likely never agree on what that arguement is all about, much less who is right.

Ill agree with Bryce on his second response–the NRA has done a tremendously successful job at convincing gun owners that Democrats want to take their guns away. Brilliant, brilliant manuever.

However, I’m still not sure. Do you want more government or less?

And Bill, that is one awesome shot. Who is that guy?

By: Bill from Sheridan

Bill from Sheridan — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 04:21:01 +0000

Check out the awesome link on my name.

By: AKA Bryce

AKA Bryce — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:01:34 +0000

“Why do Republicans want less government involvement in our lives when it comes to business and guns, yet they want MORE government involvement when it comes to your bedroom and womens rights?”

I will answer you when you tell me how Democrats can protest at Varner when the execute a scumbag and then scream at the top of there voices about a womans right to kill a baby.

“if the democrat didnt have a hunting license, wasnt a member of the NRA, and didnt own a cabinet full of guns– you just might have a difficult time believing that he was a strong pro amendment guy just because he said so, no?”

That is actually a pretty good argument but I think people in general trust the Republican party a whole lot more with their gun rights than they do the Democrats, thus it is easier to believe it when a Republican says he is pro 2nd amendment.

By: Jason Tolbert

Jason Tolbert — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:52:41 +0000

Well, I will not be presumptuous enough to speak for all Republicans but when you say “they want MORE government involvement when it comes to your bedroom and womens rights,” I assume you are talking about the individuals’ right “granted” by Roe v Wade to kill their unborn children. In this case, I have trouble seeing how any rational human being can be in favor of this. I am of the belief that it is a proper role of government to establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty (I know I read that somewhere) and not to redistribute wealth through governmental programs.

By: Br549

Br549 — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:28:39 +0000

Tolbert,

I didnt say that they couldn’t be strongly pro second amendment. But, just for the sake of discussion–if the democrat didnt have a hunting license, wasnt a member of the NRA, and didnt own a cabinet full of guns– you just might have a difficult time believing that he was a strong pro amendment guy just because he said so, no?

(That was one long ass sentence. My english teacher would not have been proud.)

And, since you mentioned it, riddle me this. Why do Republicans want less government involvement in our lives when it comes to business and guns, yet they want MORE government involvement when it comes to your bedroom and womens rights? Im not particularly interested in the merits pro or con of any of those issues, yet im looking for an explanation of the apparent contradiction in general philosophy.

So, do you want more or less government?

By: Jason Tolbert

Jason Tolbert — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:17:21 +0000

Dan, quit teasing us and tell us which races are you nervous about.

Br549, I don’t buy the argument that someone without a hunting license can’t be strongly pro-second amendment. That is like saying a man can’t be pro-life since he has never had a baby. To use a timely expression, that dog just don’t hunt.

By: Br549

Br549 — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:01:30 +0000

Well, there is at least one arguement. That people dont like Obama or McCain and that they stay home. With the suppossed increase of the youth vote that is expected to occur this time out, it is possible that ole Gilbert gets beat. Incumbents arent exactly popular either this year. I think i recently saw that only 7% of people think that this country is headed in the right direction….that doesnt bode well for Baker.

And I always love when the NRA endorses a republican with no hunting license (or never has even had one) over a life long member of the NRA who owns many guns and hunts regularly. Thats good stuff there.

Just to be the onery opposition here, I say that White wins.

By: Dan Greenberg

Dan Greenberg — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:29:30 +0000

There are some legislative races coming up in the next month that I am nervous about, that are inherently unpredictable. Gilbert’s election is not one of these. I just don’t see any credible argument against the idea that he will win and win big.

By: David Kinkade

David Kinkade — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:10:45 +0000

Bill, judging by the lack of response thus far, I suspect you may be right.
D.

By: Fast Eddie

Fast Eddie — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:40:43 +0000

Baker is the favorite but he has been doing alot of stupid things. Like when he did that press conference to bitch about Joe White sending out negative attack mailings. That only drew more attention to the attacks. Baker will probably win but it will be closer than alot of people think.